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    #16
    Hope it is OK to post this, I have set up a site that is aimed at helping people find on topic link partners, (This is not a commercial venture by me, it is simply a free resource I have set up) You just go there, enter your keywords and it will search the database and find you sites that are suitable and are actively looking to trade links. You then just contact them in the normal way. Also be sure to add your site to the database so that others will be able to find you when they search.

    Site is at http://www.uk-link-exchange.co.uk it is open to worldwide sites, as on topic is on topic
    Old Bald & Stupid, but more than compensated for by being born Welsh.
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      #17
      Hi Chris,
      I know, I've sent you mail.
      JRAS
      www.centgalleryandnavajo.co.uk

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        #18
        What happens when I find a good site (relevant content) I like (imho), but with a low page rank.

        Link or ditch?

        And whats the word on `local` sites. Like the localtouristboard.com, localcompanieslist.com or myarea.com. Even if the subject content is not really anything like your 'sites own. (None of that sites are real, just to give an example. Well they might be real but that's coincidence only).
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          #19
          If you like the site and its relevant to your visitors I would link to it. Part of your linking strategy has to be to include sites of benefit to your visitors. Don't forget low ranking sites have to get a high ranking site to link to it to increase their own ranking, so in the future you may in turn benefit from the link.

          I tend not to link to low ranking sites when I feel the site is of poor quality. If I am asked to link to a low ranking site which I feel has merit then I will.

          I will add my site to local directories only if I feel the directory has some merit.

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            #20
            That's my thinking too Jo. :thumbsup:
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              #21
              Hi,

              I have been doing link work for 6 years and the only way to is the hard way.

              Here goes with a few pointers to a good google rank.

              Make sure you have a good pagerank before you start - at least 3 or 4 or you have a great website that the webmaster you are proposing a link exchange with will benefit from, ie good content, well designed etc.

              Look for sites similar to yours, ie themed with a decent google pagerank of 3 or 4 or more.(the green bit in the google search bar)

              Contact the webmaster/owner etc and ask politely for a link exchange with his site, remember he may have a pr 4, 5, or 6 index page but the only one that will count is the one with your link on there, if it's not at least a pr3 or 4 leave alone.
              If there are more than 100 links on the page this again will not help you very much, I would say about 50 as a rule or else your pagerank will be diluted.

              Get yourself a spread sheet and make a report of all your links as you request them, this will be easier when you contact them a second time.

              The normal link acceptance is perhaps 10 out of a hundred link requests, although depending on your website this can be a lot higher.

              If you have several websites offer the webmaster a non reciprocating link exchange, link from your site to his with a different site and vice versa, google will see this as incoming links to your website, this works very well to increase your search engine positions on google.

              Stay away from linksmanager and other artificially inflated links programs as these are sometimes referred to as link farms.

              Yes this takes hard work, No it isn't easy but perceverance is the key.

              Some of you will say that i am only referring to google here, yes I am but if you do well in google your normally not far off with yahoo, msn, etc.
              Good website content still counts, but links matter more.



              Good luck!

              Wayne.
              www.fetishwear-uk.co.uk


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                #22
                Originally posted by pinbrook
                you'd need a database or spreadsheet so that you can classify peoples website,

                Links need to be to related sites in order to be of benefit

                thus a bedding company could link to a bedshop
                I'd offer to program a system to collect and provide relevant links to members - it would be a good exercise for me... my coding skills get rusty is not!

                ;{)

                regards

                Greg
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                Free and low cost Merchant Accounts coming soon..
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                  #23
                  Linking. Hmmm.

                  Our homepage, and catalog homepage are have a Google page rank of 4.

                  Our links page and sitemap have a page rank of 3.

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                    #24
                    Hi george,

                    Try to keep your links pages and your sitemap on the 2nd level as these are important pages.
                    Your pages are on the 3rd level and have very few incoming links, this is the reason for your pr3 and is perfectly normal.

                    eg: http://www.footballheaven.net/acatalog/Links.html
                    and http://www.footballheaven.net/acatalog/sitemap.html

                    Should really be

                    http://www.footballheaven.net/Links.html
                    http://www.footballheaven.net/sitemap.html

                    Is there a reason all your static pages are in the /acatalog, you would be a lot better to keep these separate in terms of se traffic and ranking.

                    You have a great site anyway

                    Wayne.
                    www.fetishwear-uk.co.uk


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                      #25
                      George,

                      Do you own any of the sites on your links page?
                      If not you are helping to build up their pagerank if they are not linking back.
                      They are in effect receiving non-recip incoming links.

                      Do you check for this often?

                      Wayne.
                      www.fetishwear-uk.co.uk


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                        #26
                        No, I don't own any of them. I do have links back from some of them although its nothing I've actually insisted on. I have tried to make it an interesting and varied list, giving some decent browsing to customers. As opposed to just a list of shopping sites or similar non football sites.

                        I do appreciate that good ranking links are important for site promotion though.

                        I work hard on our 'site and its nice to get kind words sometimes, thank you.
                        Football Heaven

                        For all kinds of football souvenirs and memorabilia.

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                          #27
                          George,

                          You work very hard and the site is as good, if not better than your link sites, very informative for the football community.
                          I think your pr should be a lot higher than it is perhaps a 6
                          I can list everyday sites in your links not as good as yours that should be priveledged to link to you.
                          Insist on a link back from the sites and this will do you a lot of good in terms of traffic and search engine rankings.
                          Look at it this way. Why give away your hard earned traffic for nothing, this is diluting your pagerank down.

                          Wayne.
                          www.fetishwear-uk.co.uk


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                            #28
                            Certainly food for thought, the links page could be doing with some new faces anyway so I can combine an overhaul with a bit of quality control thrown in.

                            Not many commercial sites on the list either. A lot of `regular` sites out there nowadays, nice to attempt something a bit different.
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                              #29
                              Definitely George.

                              Look at the mediocre sites and they will be happy to reciprocate with you.
                              What will also help is to cut your links page right down to about 50 outgoing links or less, i normally go for less than 30 links per page.
                              The easiest way to do this is to create 2 or 3 links pages.

                              Ist Page PR4 - keep this to reciprocating PR4 links and above.
                              2nd Page PR3 - keep this to recip PR3 links
                              3rd Page PR2 - keep this to PR2 links

                              Any non recip links stick on your PR2 page, unless you believe they are really useful.
                              This approach will keep the visitors on your page and get rid of the tyre kickers.

                              I could do this for you George, but you are already half way there.

                              Ps. A crafty way if you have the time is to build a few more different websites and host these on a different server with a different ip address for each one. When someone asks for a link you can link from a different site to theirs and vice versa - instant incoming non recip links.
                              The sites will be completely seperate websites, you will be doing nothing wrong, this approach is taken by millions of websites who build link pages purposely for this.

                              Food for thought indeed.

                              Good luck George.

                              Wayne.
                              www.fetishwear-uk.co.uk


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