I nearly just choked on my coffee

[pinbrook]

Thought I'd take a relaxing coffee break and read FSB mag thats been sitting here unopenedfor a while.... (Aug/Sept 07)

page 22 there is an interesting article "Harder work, Same reward" which essentially says web designers have to work harder for the same reward..... but

This suggests that web designers are having to work harder for the
same level of reward, but commercial ecommerce packages - which
should enable web designers to develop ecommerce sites more
quickly and efficiently - are only used for about one-third of builds.
This, according to Actinic's Chris Barling, means that web designers
are potentially missing out on efficiency savings just when they need
them most.

I think i must have missed the pinnocchio nose on ChrisB last time i met him

[freakmode]

The other two thirds must be a free open source offering with working product options.

[wfl]

Ohh yes so there is ;=======()

Excellent Chris, we are looking forward to being able to work quickly and efficiently. Any idea how soon that might be

[Darren B]

oooooh, just when you thought it was safe to play outside.

Chris will this be V9 then

[gabrielcrowe]

I suppose theoretically, you could put up an unmodified shop in a couple of munites and be ready to take orders.

Theoretically.

[RuralWeb]

I suppose theoretically, you could put up an unmodified shop in a couple of munites and be ready to take orders

Ive done exactly that a few times. The fastest has been less than an hour including buying the domain, hosting and payments using paypal so it is possible. If you use actinic out the box then its very quick to get up and running - in a day you coud be selling a 100 products easily.

[gabrielcrowe]

but dont you think that ist counterproductive to the internet as a whole?

to have hordes of teeming noobs cluttering up the pipes with their clone shops?

[RuralWeb]

to have hordes of teeming noobs cluttering up the pipes with their clone shops

Its what actinic is designed to do! and its very good at it IMO.

The vast majority of actinic shops IMO will use a standard template with minor mods - we only see on the forum people who are going beyond the norm. The rest lurk in the background.

[RuralWeb]

Doing what? cluttering?

well that may be your opionion and I assume your site is of great value to the internet as a whole but actinic allows an ecommerce site to be built pretty cheaply and quickly which is what the majority of people want to do.

People have realised for a while that a website is a must for business these days and so the interent is slowly clogging up I agree BUT who is to decide what is clutter and what are valuable sites - I have seen many very pretty websites that must have cost a fortune to build but never generate a penny while I have also seen some pretty basic actinic sites that are making £1,000,000+

[Darren B]

BUT who is to decide what is clutter and what are valuable sites

Google most of the time

I have also seen some pretty basic actinic sites that are making £1,000,000+

Hmmm, i have one of those, wish it was my company

D

[RuralWeb]

Google most of the time

And if you look at the sites G selects to be at the top then most of the time they are pretty basic - which annoys the pretty boy designers

[Darren B]

And if you look at the sites G selects to be at the top then most of the time they are pretty basic - which annoys the pretty boy designers

Thats because the pretty boys spend all there time making these wonderfull flash sites that are not doing any SEO, mind not that i understand that stuff anyway

[george]

Go to interweb to buy stuff. Locate it. Purchase it. Receive it (hopefully).


At no point do you need a shag from the website.

[gabrielcrowe]

you missed one from the middle there somewhere george.

Trust it.

well designed sites instull trust in the customer. crappy looking sites dont.

it just so happens that the default actinic site is a fairly decent shop design.

[RuralWeb]

Thats because the pretty boys spend all there time making these wonderfull flash sites

Exactly - completely invisible