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[mash]

Sadly I have nothing to add but I wanted to follow this thread, I could not see another way to do that. Hence my reply.

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[DannyBoy]

@MeFormLondon
On the contrary I think you are absolutely correct, I also don't see that it will effect us/actinic at all, we all use the normal utma/utmz tracking cookies so we can analyze the performance of our sites and to find ways to improve it. Actinic uses the normal cart cookies that every ecommerce site does, it wouldn't function correctly without them.
Adfarms, and yieldmanagers and ad tracking and management companies may be the target here to try and police a situation that has been apparent for quite sometime and for alot of websites this is how they make their bread & butter. This is whom it may effect more than likely but be able to police it will be a definate task. With inprivate browsing added to most of the major browsers nowadays the client always has the ability to control how and if they are tracked or not anyway...!

storm, teacup, change, will, nothing

Exactly!

[leehack]

storm, teacup, change, will, nothing

Rearrange into what will happen in reality.

[Duncan Rounding]

Google Analytics (or similar) and re-marketing is an essential part of an online business and frankly if you lost a few customers that didn't want to store cookies then this would still be better than loosing the functionality altogether as the gains in having it would more than likely outweigh the loss.

Personally I think GA will completely ignore the issue and make no comment. Amazon who are probably one of the biggest re-marketers will, I (cynically) think, ignore the requirement until (if ever) they are forced to legally comply through the courts.

The ability of Amazon to be able to get an email out to visitors about products related to those you viewed on the site less than 24 hours ago has got to be worth it's weight in gold (and some lawyers fees I suspect).

[Chunkford]

How this will affect GA remains to be seen, I would hope that allowance will be made for what is an essential part of SEO.

This is why I'm so miffed.
I spend a lot of time in GA or other such analytics, and having that vital information taken away will mean going back to the dark ages making guesses and wasting hard earned money.
I would be a lot happier if analytics was exempt from this.

[Steve G Griggs]

Morning all.
There is an article on this in the latest .NET nagazine, which states that the legislation does not apply to first party cookies used for tracking items ordered in an e-commerce website to the checkout.
It seem to be third party cookies that are the target (for advertising and behavioural tracking).
However: owners of e-commerce websites are being advised to say in our T&C pages that "first party cookies are used for tracking your cart contents..." etc. This is something we have been stating on our website for some time anyway, but not in any great detail though. I would imagine this will be a requirement in due course (but a sensible one I think).
What we will be required to mention is the use of cookies for Google analytics. How this will affect GA remains to be seen, I would hope that allowance will be made for what is an essential part of SEO.

[Duncan Rounding]

I doubt ecommerce sites will have an issue with cookies - so long as they say so, but it's a whole different thing when it comes to Google tracking and similar analytical and marketing tools.

[MeFromLondon]

My take on it is this:

1) There is an exception to the opt in as detailed in the the ICO document mentioned earlier in this thread: “The only exception to this rule is if what you are doing is ‘strictly necessary’ for a service requested by the user. This exception is a narrow one but might apply, for example, to a cookie you use to ensure that when a user of your site has chosen the goods they wish to buy and clicks the ‘add to basket’ or ‘proceed to checkout’ button, your site ‘remembers’ what they chose on a previous page. You would not need to get consent for this type of activity.”

2) Actinic uses cookies to add things to the shopping basket and to maintain the save and retrieve the shopping basket (save for later).

3) Provided my understanding of Actinics use of cookies is correct and it doesn’t use them anywhere else, then all we need to do is disable the save for later bit (and mention cookies in the privacy policy if they’re not already).

I don’t claim to know enough of how Actinic uses cookies, and we don’t use user accounts, and of course, I could be completely wrong! I'm sure I must be wrong, nothings ever that simple. I've missed something, haven't I?

[Duncan Rounding]

"...and has already been set..."
This is in breach of the requirements. You should be asked prior to cookie being set.

[neildotwilliams]

The ICO website has added a banner at the top allowing you to opt-in to cookies, a day before the new rules apply.

Could be another option to get around this, not sure how to do the html code though. Anyone got the know how? I can see the source on the website but I'd have to figure out how to plug it in.

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[completerookie]

Have you seen a bit of news on the BBC website, posted today at 1:30pm, seems they defferred the cookie issue for a year !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13541250

[Duncan Rounding]

I think at this stage it will suffice to have the standard privacy statement as well as a short statement to the effect that methods are being investigated to able to comply with the new legislation. That way no one can say you have ignored it and also aligns with the suggestion by them that you need to show that you are looking into how to implement the changes.

[Mike Hughes]

Read the link for more details:

http://www.ico.gov.uk/for_organisati...gulations.ashx

It appears that the 'advice' is not to rely on browser settings at present as the cookie settings aren't specific enough yet.

So still a mess.

Mike

[neildotwilliams]

I know that feeling

Can they ban you if they can't track you?