Negative Discount

[Daveb]

Hi Guys and Gals
I am trying to create a surcharge for a products group, (Hazardous Material Handling). It should work like a negative discount for a product group but, it seems that a negative amount is not allowed.
Any ideas for a work around?

It cannot be done through shipping because in the U.S. version, the UPS interface overrides all Actinic shipping control.

Thanks
Dave

[Mike Hughes]

can you not add it as a surcharge to the product?

Mike

[Daveb]

Mike
As far as I can tell, according to "HELP", you can only apply surcharges, to payment methods.
If you try to create one through "Discounts, Surcharges and Coupons", it seems that you cannot create a surcharge to a product or a product group.
Or, at least, I don't see it.

Thanks
Dave

[leehack]

Look on the product itself, there are options for shipping and costs etc.

[Daveb]

Lee
You are correct, But, In the U.S. version, when using the built in UPS shipping method, it overrides the Actinic shipping options. Anything you do in product shipping does not work, in checkout, it goes directly to the Online UPS shipping.
So, I am attempting to solve my problem by using a negative discount, but as far as I can tell, Actinic does not allow it. I need a work around if it can be done.

Dave

[Krithika]

Hello Dave

In the U.S. version, when using the built in UPS shipping method, it overrides the Actinic shipping options

That's correct.
Surcharges at the moment can be applied to order total based discounting and not for particular products or product groups.
I will run it past the development team though to find out if a workaround would be possible or if it goes into our wish list.

Regards

[Daveb]

Thanks
Dave

[Krithika]

Hello Dave

I have heard back from my colleague in development. He confirms it is a wishlist item, however he has suggested a workaround.

You can create a mandatory component such as 'Hazardous Material Handling surcharge' to all the relevant products. When added to cart, the component description would appear in the cart as well for the buyer to be aware, and add the required surcharge to the order total.

Could you give it a try and let me know if that would work?

Regards

[Daveb]

Krithika
Thanks for the response.
That work around has been checked, and I have found that it cannot be limited to once per order.

What I believe would work is to be allowed to enter a negative number in the REWARDS field in Discounts and Surcharges.

see attached Screenshot.

That field is the key and I believe that addressing the code to allow a negative number would solve my problem.

Thanks
Dave

[Mike Hughes]

The only other way I can think of doing this (without modifying Actinic) would be to customise one of the perl scripts to add the handling charge as a compulsory product whenever a hazmat was purchased.

To do this you'd need to create a 'handling charge' product and then the script would add the details to the session file whenever it sees a relevant product being added. Probably the easiest way for it to recognise one of these products would be if you added '-x' or something similar to the product reference of appropriate products.

This may or may not work for you. It's just a suggestion that might get you sorted quicker than the usual process of adding something to the wishlist.

Mike

[Daveb]

Thanks Mike
I believe that this approach would not allow limiting the surcharge to "Once per Order".
If the order is for 2 bottles of the Hazmat product, and it ships in one box, there is only one hazmat charge.
Discounts allows for this.

Dave

[Mike Hughes]

Hi Dave,

Any proper script mod for this would of course be capable of making sure it only applied the surcharge once.

The thing you have to realise is that many items on the wishlist will never appear in Actinic because they aren't widely needed or critical to the general usage of the software.

Mike