V8.5.1 Changes Look of Products

[Atomic]

I have recently upgraded to V8.5.1 and have noticed the following changes to the layout of my products:

1. Where my Radio Button Attributes used to appear as a plain and simple image in black and white they now appear as a rather unpleasant blue 3D image

2. The space between my Full Description and any Attributes or Components has increased making the product details look overly sparce. This is most noticable on products with two sets of Component details as the space between them is also increased

Is it possible for me to revert back to the original look of my product?

[TraceyHand]

I have recently upgraded to V8.5.1 and have noticed the following changes to the layout of my products:

2. The space between my Full Description and any Attributes or Components has increased making the product details look overly sparce. This is most noticable on products with two sets of Component details as the space between them is also increased

I've noticed that too.
I had a quick play yesterday to try to move them back together again but I'm out of my depth at the moment
I only downloaded it and ran an upgrade on a V7 snapshot a couple of days ago (not in use yet..just testing!) so my knowledge is still zero!

I can't help..but I'll be watching for replies

[cdicken]

Hi Paul - are you upgrading from v7 or from an earlier version of v8?

Also, could you perhaps show a screengrab of the issues. The radio button issue just sounds like a difference in how Internet Explorer shows radio buttons, but the screengrab would confim that.

[Atomic]

Chris

I have upgraded from V8.5.0.

Why would the Radio Button issue be to do with Internet Explorer? My Internet Explorer hasn't changed.
Sorry, I can't do a screen grab at the moment because I am not on the same PC as my catalogue

Regards

Stephen (not Paul)

[cdicken]

Stephen

(sorry about calling you Paul!)

I must admit, I haven't found time yet to upgrade my installation to 8.5.1. I'll do it tomorrow morning, and report back to you.

In the meantime, the offending code is likely to be in one of the following layouts:

• 'Standard Component Layout' (within the 'Components' group in the library.
• 'Standard Component List' (within the 'Component Lists' group in the library - click the orange 'click here to edit list layout settings' text to view the code of the list).

[Atomic]

Morning Chris

I had worked through this assumption yesterday and did notice a difference between the Standard Component List code between V8.5.0 and V8.5.1

V8.5.0 is as follows:
<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" border="0">
</table>

V8.5.1 is the same but is enclosed by <P></P>

I have removed the <P>s (it looked like a logical sollution) but this has not cured the problem

I looked at the Standard Component Layout code also - too scary

please let me know if you find out anything after you have loaded your version

Regards

Stephen

[TraceyHand]

I couldn't figure it out either (I tried the same thing you did, Stephen)

My V7 layout (which I'm assuming is the same as your 8.5.0 layout is shown in this top product on this page
http://www.budget-bumps.co.uk/acatalog/Nursing.html

And the 8.5.1 layout (uploaded in test mode..as a straight upgrade but not fully sorted yet) is here
http://budget-bumps.co.uk/acatalog/t...g/Nursing.html

Is this the same kind of effect as you're getting?

[RuralWeb]

There has been a bug fix in 8.5.1 which sorted out a duplicate problem but this has resulted in a new layout being forced on all duplictes even if you select option 2 (do not change my design) this will replace any mods you may have done to the duplictae layout.

It also looks like some product selectors are being altered on upgrade as well eg hide on website

[Atomic]

Morning Chris

I had worked through this assumption yesterday and did notice a difference between the Standard Component List code between V8.5.0 and V8.5.1

V8.5.0 is as follows:
<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" border="0">
</table>

V8.5.1 is the same but is enclosed by <P></P>

I have removed the <P>s (it looked like a logical sollution) but this has not cured the problem

I looked at the Standard Component Layout code also - too scary

please let me know if you find out anything after you have loaded your version

Regards

Stephen

[Atomic]

Hi Tracy

Yes, I am getting the same sort of thing as your site - the problem seems to even greater in Smart design.

I haven't uploaded my new site yet (I've got about two thousand more products to do) and the PC that it is on is at home so I can't show you the effect that I am getting.

If you go to this page of my existing site
http://www.blackironmongery.co.uk/ac.../t-hinges.html
this is what it should look like.

On V8.5.1 there are about 21/2 paragraph spaces between the last line of the desription and the Component

Stephen

[cdicken]

Stephen

You need to go to the 'Components' group in the library and edit the layout called 'Component Layout With Selectable Permutations'. Replace the code in there with the following:

<actinic:block if="%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22IsComponentCheckboxShown%22%20%2f%3e">
   <input type="checkbox" name="<Actinic:Variable Name="UIWidgetName"/>" <actinic:block if="%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22IsSelectedByDefault%22%20%2f%3e">checked="checked"</actinic:block> />
</actinic:block>
<actinic:block if="%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22IsComponentHiddenFieldIncluded%22%20%2f%3e">
   <input type="hidden" name="<Actinic:Variable Name="UIWidgetName"/>" value="on" />
</actinic:block>
<Actinic:Variable Name="ComponentDisplayLabel"/>
<Actinic:PRICE_EXPLANATION PROD_REF="<actinic:variable Name="ProductID" />" COMPONENTID=<actinic:variable name="ComponentIndex" />><actinic:variable name="ComponentRetailCustomerMessage" /></Actinic:PRICE_EXPLANATION>
<actinic:block if="%28%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22NumberAttributesInPushButtonGrid%22%20%2f%3e%20%3d%3d%200%29%20OR%0d%28%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22ListIndex%22%20%2f%3e%20%3c%20%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22ComponentCount%22%20%2f%3e%29">
	<actinic:variable name="PermutationLayout" value="Permutation Drop Down List" />
</actinic:block>
<actinic:block if="%28%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22NumberAttributesInPushButtonGrid%22%20%2f%3e%20%21%3d%200%29%20AND%0d%28%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22ListIndex%22%20%2f%3e%20%3d%3d%20%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22ComponentCount%22%20%2f%3e%29">
	<actinic:variable name="AttributeList" />
</actinic:block>

(or else just remove all <br> tags from the code yourself).

I can see absolutely no difference in the radio buttons though. I'm wondering if you are now seeing XP-style radio buttons, which are bluey-grey. This is down to the operating system rather than Actinic though.

[TraceyHand]

ok..I did this (sorry for butting into the thread) but it didn't appear to make any difference.

I removed a <br> tag from the "standard component layout" layout and managed to close the gap between the product price and the component name by one line only (actually, the gap between price and the html name for the attribute as my component names are not visible on the website for this product) .

It's still quite a large gap between the 2.

And, I'm also finding large gaps between the components and the attributes themselves.
Even with much "fiddling", I've been unable to close these gaps (without affecting something else altogether!)

Any ideas?

OK..edited to say I'd missed a <br/> tag in the "standard component layout" and have managed to close the gap between the components (for products with more than one component) but I am still unable to close the gap between my attributes/drop down boxes

[los_design]

ok..I did this (sorry for butting into the thread) but it didn't appear to make any difference.

I removed a <br> tag from the "standard component layout" layout and managed to close the gap between the product price and the component name by one line only (actually, the gap between price and the html name for the attribute as my component names are not visible on the website for this product) .

It's still quite a large gap between the 2.

And, I'm also finding large gaps between the components and the attributes themselves.
Even with much "fiddling", I've been unable to close these gaps (without affecting something else altogether!)

Any ideas?

Here's a way we have done it in the past...

create your desired layout in notepad/dw/Nvu or whatever HTML editor you use, tabular or css (tables best btw for showing this 'data')

Ensure that layout is exactly as you wish, cellpad, space etc then ADD the required variables within actinic by copy paste...<!-- --> comment out the copied stuff, suck it and see, you like it keep it, you don't then change it.

HTH
Regards
Daren

[TraceyHand]

ok...I have a theory..

The reason for the spacing between the drop down lists on this product in particular seems to be because my second drop down list has no "html for title" entered (the prompt for it is included in the title of the top list)

If I enter something in the "html for title" box.. it doesn't affect the spacing, it merely fills in the gap between the 2 dropdowns with my title (does that make sense?)

So, is there a way round this? So I can have my 2 dropdown grouped together without Actinic leaving a line for my blank title?

And Daren...omg I just wish I even understood half of what you said or how to do it..lol
Thanks thought...I'll refer back to your post later (and probably Stephen will have more knowledge than me!)

[Atomic]

Chris

I'll certainly try that this evening when I've got access to the right PC.

Many Thanks