v8.5.1 and v8.5.2 Layouts

[jont]

Layout wise is there any difference between the 2 versions? Looking at installing v8.5.2 but being able to maintain design changes for clients on v8.5.1.

[RuralWeb]

Im using it but have had some odd things happening on snapshots to do with layouts so I would be careful - jo has posted on this as well

[cdicken]

There are three areas that layouts differ between v8.5.1 and v8.5.2

The meta tags in 8.5.2 are now the same on brochure pages and product pages and look like this:

   <actinic:block if="%28%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22PageType%22%20%2f%3e%20%21%3d%20%22Section%22%20AND%20%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22PageType%22%20%2f%3e%20%21%3d%20%22Brochure%22%29%20OR%20%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22IsStoreFrontPage%22%20%2f%3e" >
      <!-- Meta tags entered into the green 'Online Catalog' icon -->
      <actinic:block if="%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22GlbMetaKeywords%22%20%2f%3e%20%21%3d%20%22%22" >
         <meta name="keywords" content="<actinic:variable name="GlbMetaKeywords" />" />
      </actinic:block>
      <actinic:block if="%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22GlbMetaDescription%22%20%2f%3e%20%21%3d%20%22%22">
         <meta name="description" content="<actinic:variable name="GlbMetaDescription" />" />
      </actinic:block>
   </actinic:block>
   <actinic:block if="%28%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22PageType%22%20%2f%3e%20%3d%3d%20%22Section%22%20AND%20%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22IsStoreFrontPage%22%20%2f%3e%20%21%3d%20TRUE%29%20OR%20%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22PageType%22%20%2f%3e%20%3d%3d%20%22Brochure%22">
      <!-- meta tags for individual section and brochure pages -->
      <actinic:block if="%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22MetaKeywords%22%20%2f%3e%20%21%3d%20%22%22">
         <meta name="keywords" content="<actinic:variable name="MetaKeywords" />" />
      </actinic:block>
      <actinic:block if="%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22MetaDescription%22%20%2f%3e%20%21%3d%20%22%22">
         <meta name="description" content="<actinic:variable name="MetaDescription" />" />
      </actinic:block>
   </actinic:block>

Product quantity fields are now hidden if a customer group isn't enabled. There's some code in product layouts to support this

     <actinic:block if="%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22IsQuantityPromptShown%22%20%2f%3e%20AND%20%28%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22IsOutOfStockShown%22%20%2f%3e%20%3d%3d%20FALSE%29%20AND%20%28%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22IsCatalogSuspendedShown%22%20%2f%3e%20%3d%3d%20FALSE%29" >  
		<actinic:block if="%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22CartButtonVisibleToAllCustomers%22%20%2f%3e" >
		<!-- This code is used when the quantity box is visible to all customers -->
		<p>
		<span class="actrequired"><Actinic:Variable Name="QuantityPrompt"/></span><input type="text" name="Q_<actinic:variable Name="ProductID"/>" size="4" value="<Actinic:Variable Name="DefaultQuantity"/>" class="form_input_general" />
		</p>
		</actinic:block> 
		<actinic:block if="%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22EnabledForCustomerGroupID%22%20%2f%3e%20%21%3d%20%22%22">
			<actinic:block if="%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22ProductPriceIsEnabled%22%20%2f%3e" >
				<!-- This code is used when the quantity box is visible to retail customers, but not all other customer groups -->
				<Actinic:ShowForPriceSchedule Schedules="<actinic:variable name="EnabledForCustomerGroupID" />">
				<p>
				<span class="actrequired"><Actinic:Variable Name="QuantityPrompt"/></span><input type="text" name="Q_<actinic:variable Name="ProductID"/>" size="4" value="<Actinic:Variable Name="DefaultQuantity"/>" class="form_input_general" />
				</p>
				</Actinic:ShowForPriceSchedule>
				</actinic:block>
				<actinic:block if="%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22ProductPriceIsEnabled%22%20%2f%3e%20%3d%3d%20FALSE" >		
				<!-- This code is used when the quantity box needs to hidden from retail customers -->
				<Actinic:ShowForPriceSchedule Schedules="<actinic:variable name="EnabledForCustomerGroupID" />" HTML="<p><span class='actrequired'><Actinic:Variable Name="QuantityPrompt"/></span><input type='text' name='Q_<actinic:variable Name="ProductID"/>' size='4' value='<Actinic:Variable Name="DefaultQuantity"/>' class='form_input_general' /></p>"></Actinic:ShowForPriceSchedule>
				</actinic:block>
				</actinic:block> 
			</actinic:block>

Prices for online logged-in customers are now generated by the code in the 'Prices for Customer Accounts' group in the library. This is all handled by the Perl though so no other layouts are affected.

[Duncan Rounding]

Nice to know Chris - I run each version increment in a separate Virtual PC as I didn't want to take the chance of something being different.

[leehack]

I noticed on mine that all product layouts were upgraded as part of the process.

[jont]

Thanks Chris - so essentially just a couple of layout issues otherwise should (in theory) be OK.

[jont]

Nice to know Chris - I run each version increment in a separate Virtual PC as I didn't want to take the chance of something being different.

Just installed XP Pro onto a dual boot XP Home machine so as to install v8.5.2 (and then Virtual PC on that same machine) .. luckily had an unregistered XP Pro license but the disk was from 2002 .... now installing hundreds of patches to bring it up to date

What better way to spend a Sunday evening??

[TraceyHand]

What better way to spend a Sunday evening??

are you open to suggestions or what that a rhetorical question?

[jont]

No suggestions needed - there is no better way - currently installing update 54!!!

[TraceyHand]

well, you sure know how to live, eh?

I'm almost envious.... just almost...

[jont]

I know ... keep switching between the 2 machines to see the progress indicator moving and checking for new posts on the forum.

PARTTTTTTYYYYYYY

[TraceyHand]

well, whichever monitor has the forum on is wayyyyyyy more interesting!

Check out the lost sarcasm thread, for one
LOL

[jont]

One monitor only at home (KVM switch).

I missed the lost thread .. looks like a humdinger

[Duncan Rounding]

For next time Jonty.

Two things you might want to try.

1. You can (I haven't tried yet) make an disk image with Acronis or the later Ghost software versions (file type .tib) and then restore that backup into a new virtual machine.
2. You can install and run Windows 2000 Pro to run Actinic which is much lighter on space and much faster to load and patch.

I use both VMWare 5 and Virtual PC 2004. I've heard others have some issues with VPC 2007 - the vhd files are compatible - so I always use VPC 2004 instead.