trouble using Creating a Listing Page which Links Through to Full Details from AUG

[Ginnys Attic]

Hi All,

I've spent 3 days now playing with this but i just cant solve my dillema so here goes.

I'm trying to use the Creating a Listing Page which Links Through to Full Details Pages – Method 2 from the AUG (I've attatched the file to this post) which is my ideal design layout and gives me a page per product and also displays the prices etc in the section or sub section pages.

Now it works like a charm but does have a few flaws one being if you add a fragment to a section you are unable to position the fragments (well so it seems). Here's an image of what i mean.



What i would ideally like to be able to do here is have a fragment at the top and a fragment at the bottom of the page and even more ideally a fragment between sections so in the example shown i would have fragment hard backs and then a few products and the a fragment soft backs and then more prodcust but for love nor money i can't do it and i was wondering if there was a way?

Here's a pic of my ideal with the fragments in different positions:



Now another problem i have found using the Creating a Listing Page which Links Through to Full Details Pages – Method 2 from the AUG is that on the main products page any sections using the new layout have a more info link in them as seen in this image where my books section has a more info link:



this is fixable by changing the position of the link in the layout but i just thought i would point it out incase anyone was interested. Where my main problem comes in using this method is that if you add a fragment to a product page which i need to do for more details, images etc Actinic attempts to show the fragment as a product and add's a buy now buttom etc to the section page as shown in this image:



Now i appreciate there is also a method 1 for doing single products per page and this uses the extended info but the down side to this is i am still unable to include fragments within the products extended info page.

Any help, suggestions or advise please?

[leehack]

First of all resize your image, it's stretching into the next county. If we want to take a look and help, we will click to see it, it's breaking the forum layout.

Creating a cut down product layout and treating it as a fragment, will probably be your easiest method.

[Ginnys Attic]

sorry about that, i've resized all the images to be 800 wide now.

What do you mean create a cut down product layout and how can i then treat a product as a fragment?

[RuralWeb]

Try spending a little time searching the forum - ALL the various methods have been full detailed.

[leehack]

Create a new product layout that is to be used for fragments only. A product has very similar fields to a fragment, so just use it as a fragment, even though it is technically a product.

[Ginnys Attic]

Try spending a little time searching the forum - ALL the various methods have been full detailed.

I have already spent the last 3 days searching the forums looking at the AUG and trying different things non of which helped hence the post asking for help.

Create a new product layout that is to be used for fragments only. A product has very similar fields to a fragment, so just use it as a fragment, even though it is technically a product.

I'm don't really understand what you mean Lee, do i create a new product layout in the design > library within the products section and do i create a new Selector or simply a new layout?

If i simply create a new layout do i base it on the product layout i'm using and if so what have i achieved by doing that?

[OriginalTouch]

Read this about removing the 'add to cart from fragments:

http://community.actinic.com/showthr...t=35434&page=2

[OriginalTouch]

Read this about placing fragments where you want them:

http://community.actinic.com/showthread.php?t=33995

[leehack]

I have already spent the last 3 days searching the forums looking at the AUG and trying different things non of which helped hence the post asking for help.

What a waste of 3 days, why not just contact a designer and get it done and dusted in an hour? If you don't get it or it's outside of your current knowledge, why not pay someone to do it for you instead of struggle? Local designers to you are listed on the actinic site.

I'm don't really understand what you mean Lee, do i create a new product layout in the design > library within the products section and do i create a new Selector or simply a new layout?

Just create a new layout in the design library, it will show in the selector if you copy an existing one.

If i simply create a new layout do i base it on the product layout i'm using and if so what have i achieved by doing that?

You have created a new layout which you can then adjust to be a 'cut down' product layout (like i said). A duplicate of an existing layout would be stupid like you say. Cut down means reduced or slimmed down, the crap cleared out that is not required in other words. Therefore the things a fragment would need can stay, the rest can be removed etc.

Once done, select that layout for the products and they become fragments then and you can position them accordingly.

[RuralWeb]

I have already spent the last 3 days

Then TBH it is beyond your capabilities - all the info on the subject is very clear.

[NormanRouxel]

Here is a very stripped down Product Layout

<a name="<Actinic:Variable Name="EncodedProductAnchor"/>"></a>
<h3 class="product"><Actinic:Variable Name="ProductName"/></h3>
<actinic:variable name="ProductDescription" />

[Ginnys Attic]

Read this about removing the 'add to cart from fragments:

http://community.actinic.com/showthr...t=35434&page=2

Spot on, Thank you very much for your help thats resolved issue 1 and now it's just working out the products as fragments so i can include fragments as and where i want them.

[NormanRouxel]

it's just working out the products as fragments

That's what the post immediately above yours does.

[NormanRouxel]

And if you wanted to show the Product Image, add the following

<actinic:block if="%3cactinic%3avariable%20name%3d%22IsProductImageDisplayed%22%20%2f%3e">
   <img src="<actinic:variable name="ProductImageFileName" />"
      border="0"
      width="<actinic:variable name="ProductImageWidth" />"
      height="<actinic:variable name="ProductImageHeight" />"
      alt="<actinic:variable name="ProductName" encoding="strip"/>" />
</actinic:block>

[Ginnys Attic]

What a waste of 3 days, why not just contact a designer and get it done and dusted in an hour? If you don't get it or it's outside of your current knowledge, why not pay someone to do it for you instead of struggle? Local designers to you are listed on the actinic site.

Then i would never know how or why and would never learn anything.

Just create a new layout in the design library, it will show in the selector if you copy an existing one.

You have created a new layout which you can then adjust to be a 'cut down' product layout (like i said). A duplicate of an existing layout would be stupid like you say. Cut down means reduced or slimmed down, the crap cleared out that is not required in other words. Therefore the things a fragment would need can stay, the rest can be removed etc.

Once done, select that layout for the products and they become fragments then and you can position them accordingly.

I did create the new layout using the example posted by Norman but i'm not overly sure this is exactly going to help with what i want to do which is have fragments in between sections (sections that are actually products) (sorry here's another image)



What i would like to do is have the product layout 2 column's wide and be able to place fragments in between products (bare in mind the products are actually within sections):

Something like this:

Fragment 1
Product 1 Product 2
Product 3
Fragment 2
Product 4 Product 5
Product 6 Product 7
Product 8 Product 9
Fragment 3

The fragments will need to go accross the width of the page (two column's)