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    Just recieved my copy of v9 - First thoughts..

    So I've gone from 8 to 9 and generally the cross over was fairly simple and straight forward. No problems as yet with the site although I now have to re impliment all script changes apparently theres a backup logs folder where I can source them from.

    I like the overall look and feel and definitely like the new design window code/design feels alot more like dreamweaver now. Obviously lacking the facilities of dreamweaver but I wasnt expecting any of those anyway.

    Still one thing that has annoyed me from day one is the content tree.

    Anything new added to the content tree automatically gets sent to the top. (makes sence, until you want your site in A-Z.. You then have to drag them all back into the the root starting with Z so by the end its all in order. A simple up and down arrow would be nice.

    The next point is something thats already been discussed and was on my mind during the upgrade. And that is, is this actually a new version? And crucially is it worth the upgrade price? I don't think I'm ready to answer either of those until I've used it for a month or so. But what I can say is that I definitely believe the future of Actinic lays in plugin's and "extentions" for Actinic.

    Dreamweaver realised this about 3-4 years ago, after releasing version after version (I've owned dreamweaver from 2000 to present) then came the extention bridge software. Which links "plugins" that users choose whether they need them or not to the dreamweaver interface.

    This is definitely what Actinic needs, we dont want to wait years for the little things to be introduced over time.

    The process is simple actually doing it; is probably not.

    But mimicing the extention software used with dreamweaver would seem like the most seemless way of doing things. Having a program running in the tray called something like Actinic Bridge. Which links both Actinic and the Plugins of the future.

    Then Actinic could release a Developer pack for the special group of users that create mods and addons already.

    The sort of addons I would like to see are ones that would turn a desktop package into a dynamic one.

    Database driven customer reviews like one offered by cactushop see here - http://www.cactushop.com/cs6/product...AT_ID=&P_ID=21

    Maybe costing £30 as a plugin.

    This will free up Actinics time to improve the core program. Rather than releasing "loads" of new features. Also lets the end user choose what they use and also offers better value for money.

    This also means that from a "wish list" other companies and individual developers can pick up the ball and make said plugin thus giving the users what they actually want.

    I have some extensive knowledge in software development and I definitely see it possible.

    Now all that the heads of the company are going to want to know is, will this be a good investment and WILL IT MAKE US MONEY.

    I think yes to both. I would like to see something like this implemented in v10 and it will open the door to take this software to the next level.

    Overall on v9 I see it more as a visual and userablity upgrade than anything else. I do love the new gui, but is it worth £250? Maybe not but I am still glad I did it.




    Dan

    #2
    Originally posted by danlou84
    Anything new added to the content tree automatically gets sent to the top. (makes sence, until you want your site in A-Z.. You then have to drag them all back into the the root starting with Z so by the end its all in order. A simple up and down arrow would be nice.
    Right click on the section where you want your new section to just be below, select new section and it should then get placed where you want it. To move sections, hold down shift and you can place them where you like, no need for the reverse alphabetical process.

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      #3
      Originally posted by leehack
      Right click on the section where you want your new section to just be below, select new section and it should then get placed where you want it. To move sections, hold down shift and you can place them where you like, no need for the reverse alphabetical process.
      See I rang them and they never said that! lol.. Told me to make an excel sheet! :S Cheers Lee.

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        #4
        but is it worth £250
        I agree with all of your points and to me also it looks like an upgrade of V8 which of course it is. But just to illustrate a feature that is not immediately obvious and IMO worth the £250 alone - that is the Goggle Analytics addition. There is not a site out there that can afford not to be fitted with analytics and £250 is a cheap price to pay to get it fitted - yes you can do it yourself but it does need knowledge and 90% of actinic users cannot do it so upgrade to V9 and see the light - analytitics will pay the £250 back very quickly so see it as an investment not a cost.

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          #5
          Originally posted by danlou84
          Overall on v9 I see it more as a visual and userablity upgrade than anything else. I do love the new gui, but is it worth £250? Maybe not but I am still glad I did it.
          Dan
          well the main changes were around the MOTO section, postcode and google analytics introduced, so the gui is one part, there were other tweaks and changes, some will say it should not have been a v9

          but as for your comments on a plugin driven software suite, i agree this would be a great addition, as for the ease of doing it, i am no software programmer so i can not comment

          D

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            #6
            Originally posted by danlou84
            See I rang them and they never said that! lol.. Told me to make an excel sheet! :S Cheers Lee.
            Really? frightening isn't it. It's something not widely known by users admittedly, but you'd expect the software company to know for sure.

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              #7
              see what did i say

              D

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                #8
                Told me to make an excel sheet
                Hmmmmm - thats why I never call support

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by leehack
                  Really? frightening isn't it. It's something not widely known by users admittedly, but you'd expect the software company to know for sure.
                  To be honest lee it always pissed me off, until probably 18 months ago when it was mentioned somewere about holding the shift key

                  D

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Darren B
                    To be honest lee it always pissed me off, until probably 18 months ago when it was mentioned somewere about holding the shift key
                    I think that was me also mentioning it then, IIRC bumpsy lifted her football shirt over her head and ran round the forum topless whooping with joy.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by leehack
                      I think that was me also mentioning it then, IIRC bumpsy lifted her football shirt over her head and ran round topless whooping with joy.
                      only in your dreams!
                      Tracey

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                        #12
                        Hmm maybe i got mixed up again, i'm sure there was a Sheila very happy about it though.

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                          #13
                          I'm not saying I wasn't happy about it, it saved me hours of hair pulling!
                          I'm just denying all knowledge of the rest of your sordid little fantasy
                          Tracey

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                            #14
                            oooh i dont know about sordid, sounds very acceptable to me, do i need to book appointments

                            D

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Darren B
                              well the main changes were around the MOTO section, postcode and google analytics introduced, so the gui is one part, there were other tweaks and changes, some will say it should not have been a v9

                              but as for your comments on a plugin driven software suite, i agree this would be a great addition, as for the ease of doing it, i am no software programmer so i can not comment

                              D
                              Well someone at the development team will have to write a 20min presentation and go sell it to the bosses. It to me definitely is the way forward.

                              As I say all they will want to know is; is it going to make us money.

                              We all know what a business needs. To make money which will be their only concern. The offset of development time/paying staff etc to the estimated revenue from the "Actinic Bridge" I might go patent that now haha :P

                              I'll ask for a cut

                              The only reason it came to light was seening many people looking at third parties to supply them with the things they need for Actinic. mods/hacks etc..

                              Actinic are losing money by not doing it themselfs. The developer pack that adobe/microsoft etc release for there apps allow people to resell products and this is the way forward.

                              I cant see many people waiting around time after time for someone to make a mod or for something to finally get added/sorted.

                              D

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