Can Component Ignore Quantity

[jeff p]

Previous thread request got read 23 times but no responses. Guess I didn't explain well enough.

Some item prices are sum of components...determined by size and quantity selections. Permutations work for this.

However, there is a set-up charge. Once for the item. Unfortunately, the charge is multiplied by the quantity...making it come up as thousands of dollars when it should be just, for example, $85.00

Is there ANY way to have this component/attribute ignore the quantity and just be added to the cart once? Without it being a separate item that the customer might ignore!

Can't believe Norman or Gary or Chris don't have a handy answer. Please help, this affects hundreds of potential items in my catalog.

Thanks...in advance.

[NormanRouxel]

Not my area. Sorry.

Norman

[jeff p]

Thanks Norman...hopefully someone else with have a workaround.

[cdicken]

Do all your products have a setup charge? In which case you could add it as a 'Handling' charge in 'Business Settings | Shipping and Handling'. This will, however, apply to all products in the store.

The other alternative is to have one product (with a 'Maximum Quantity' of '1') for the basic sale, and then have a separate product for people to purchase additional components.

[jeff p]

Chris...using shipping and handling won't work because:
a) not all products have a set-up charge
b) the set-up charge varies from product to product
On another catalog I had the set-up charges as a separate product at the bottom of each page but customers often forgot to do it...or did something else wrong. I was hoping to find a way to tie the set-up to the product without it multiplying by the quantity. I can't even divide the set-up and allow the quantity multiplier since quantity can vary on a product from say 100 to 5,000 on the same product.
This is for my own catalog and I've got a project waiting to do antoher in the same industry with the same "problems". Any other ideas?

[Jan]

To do this you need to an a separate (non-optional) component to the product for the setup charge. So if you had a product with a size and a setup charge you would have

Component : Size
Attribute : Size
Choice : c1
Choice : c2 etc ...
Permutations with prices

Component : Setup Charge
Price setup here.

Unless I have misunderstood.

Regards,

[jeff p]

Jan...

That's pretty much nailed it BUT the problem is that the component reads the quantity from the product. So if you have 1,000 pins (or pens or magnets, etc.) being ordered the component price gets multiplied out as well. If I could lock the component charge to just one...that would do it...but it seems to read the product quantity no matter what combination of tick boxes I select.

Of course, I could have missed some combo.

[Jan]

Of course - I thought that I must have missed something.

How about have a quantity drop down to allow them to select different set quantities - presumably this would allow you to give them a quantity discount as well - or maybe you could have a customvar with the amount and somehow add it on - that is back in Normans court though.

Regards,

[cdicken]

The only way you are going to do this without heavy customisation is by having a separate product for the setup charge.

You can do clever things with the layout templates though to aid the presentation of this. Check out the attached template, it lays out two products with one product image that is next to both of them.

Hope it helps.

[AnnettePB]

I am anxiously awaiting this answer too as I have a customer that is selling cable and the client can order any length, but one charge for soldering caps on both ends... same problem the component looks at how many feet they ordered and then multiplies it by the component.. astronomical costs!

Chris. how would you use this two- in- one template for just one product??

[NormanRouxel]

Jan said

or maybe you could have a customvar with the amount and somehow add it on...

Yes that would probably work but would mean some Perl patches.

I'd guess we could have a Customvar SETUPCHARGE that if it contained a value would be added to the product cost. Probably onother Customvar, SETUPDESC, containing the text to describe that charge (for the Cart and checkout) would be useful too.

Contact me off list if you want go this way as this would require paid for work.

Norman

[jeff p]

Chris...

Thanks...I'll take a look at the template which is sort of like handing the Bard to a monkey. One question: would this template then require that only the product and it's set-up be on the page? That could be done although at the moment there are a couple of items per page.

[Ben]

One question: would this template then require that only the product and it's set-up be on the page?

No. You could have other products on the page using your default ProductLine layout, and only the product with single quantity components using the template uploaded by Chris.

[shopstuff]

We also have the same problem, but unfortunatly there is no way around it, This has also been confirmed by actinic.

regards

www.shopstuff.co.uk

[jeff p]

The template Act_ProductLine2atonce is a liveable solution. Coupled with "One Add to Cart Button Per Page" it makes the buyer see it.

Two questions, though.

1) The second product (on the page and in importance) is sometimes appearing first in the cart. Likewise, where I have components for sizes and the second product is for the higher priced 2XL's, it is appear first. Is there any way to control this?

2) I've found a bearable way to take size breakdowns for shirt orders. Each component size reports a separate line in the cart but next to the quantity the customer selected for the size, is the total quantity in the order (gotten from the Quantity input). Is there a way to take that off the cart...it's a bit confusing.

As always, appreciate the help.