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    #16
    that sounded like it was said from experience, Jo
    Tracey

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      #17
      Originally posted by pinbrook
      Sometimes you have to force people in to thinking for themselves
      Too right.The ability to think is a dying art.

      We have employed several "young 'uns" over the past years and have been amazed they do not teach long division in school


      Bikster
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        #18
        Heartfelt.........Just in a bad mood this afternoon after a series of similar calls today...

        and its still b****y raining here (5 days)

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          #19
          Originally posted by jont
          Once saw a guy in PC World collecting a computer from the service desk - apparently no sound was coming from the speakers.

          The technician told him it was due to having the "mute" option ticked in the sound options and proceeded to charge him a ludicrous amount of money (£30.00 I think) as they charge a fee just to take a look! Nice
          i bet they make a mint from people with that level of knowledge (non existent)

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            #20
            Originally posted by pinbrook
            and its still b****y raining here (5 days)
            It's been loooooovely here again today. Kids had to wear sunscreen at school LOL

            Mind you...rain guaranteed for tomorrow as I'm taking a day off to go out
            Tracey

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              #21
              I have been using computers since 1974 as a hydrographic surveyor and found one major fault with 90% of all software

              The programers nearly always write the manuals and help files, and to do this use their own knowledge of what they imagine someone else would do or ask for. The earliest example of this was the question " type 1 for yes or 0 for no"

              If they employed proper tech writters and gave them a empty room with a computer and no assistance, they would get a much better manual, but to save money most just give it to the programer and say please write this

              Programmers logic is not the same as most other people and to get back to the point why do you need a mute button hidden away Keh!
              Chris Ashdown

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                #22
                Originally posted by chris ashdown
                The programers nearly always write the manuals and help files, and to do this use their own knowledge
                .. and have now done away with a nice user manual you can read whilst eating your Frosties and replaced it with a 59Gb download or as a PDF with as much usability as a brick in the head.


                Bikster
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                  #23
                  absolutely!!

                  I much prefer hard copy to a PDF file or similar
                  Sad as I am, I spend my time reading stuff like that while I'm parked outside school waiting for my boys to come out (gotta get there early to get a space LOL)
                  Nothing much better to do...
                  Tracey

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                    #24
                    Having said that the Actinic manual is not bad it should enable most people to get started with Actinic before they find the forum or Advanced guide
                    Chris Ashdown

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by budgetbumps
                      parked outside school waiting for my boys to come out (gotta get there early to get a space LOL)
                      At the previous school shorty went to (they are getting a whole website devoted to their shameful failures - but that's another story) we had to get there at least 30 minutes before kicking out or would have to park in the next county!


                      Bikster
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                        #26
                        that's what it's like here. School positioned in a cul de sac with parking for about 20 cars at most

                        And....as for the Getting Started guide....ya don't even get that for free when you upgrade any more...what's all that about?
                        Tracey

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                          #27
                          The inline help is fantastic - but hands up all those that ever think of clicking the "help" button? It's too obvious for some


                          Bikster
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                            #28
                            guilty at times, yeh!

                            It's actually a lot of help too... I used it to get my head around block ifs 'n' other stuff!
                            Tracey

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by budgetbumps
                              absolutely!!

                              I much prefer hard copy to a PDF file or similar
                              Sad as I am, I spend my time reading stuff like that while I'm parked outside school waiting for my boys to come out (gotta get there early to get a space LOL)
                              Nothing much better to do...
                              Bet it's a Chelsea Taxi

                              want a hard copy - err print the PDF

                              Sorry could not resist that one

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Darren B
                                Bet it's a Chelsea Taxi
                                Welcome back Darren
                                Care to define "Chelsea Taxi" for me?

                                Originally posted by Darren B
                                want a hard copy - err print the PDF
                                that's what I did with my V7 one. Just haven't got around to it yet.. I've spent quite a lot of time reading it on the laptop during the evening now so there's no real need any more. I already pretty much know the content lol (even if I don't understand most of it!)
                                Tracey

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