Minimum Order Value for Goods only

[Nadeem]

Hi Michael,

The original modification seems to have a bug in it which means people can place orders without any shipping charge.

Yes i can recreate that by doing the following:

Just did, created a product which was priced at £4.99
Now place the MOV to 5.00, in "View | Business Settings | Ordering", set
the "Minimum Order Value" to "5.00"

Upload to localhost, do 1 test order, so it shows up the shipping, now on
the next order, add the test product, and then add the calculator.
View Cart, and remove the calculator. So it just shows the test product.
Now click on "Checkout", and you should see it will allow you to proceed.

Attach to this thread is a patched ActinicOrder.pm. It has a modified sub CheckBuyerLimit. Please download and replace your existing perl module.

Regarding the questions you asked:
Question:
We would prefer for the Min Order Quantity to be based on the cost of goods before tax. Would it be possible to do this?

Answer:
Minimum order value (in business settings) infers me the minimum cart
value that includes subtotal, shipping, handling, tax1 and tax2 charges.

Shopping cart lines are displayed as SubTotal, Shipping, Tax1, Tax2 and
Total. Also the cart value cookie display contains the total order value.
- we can't change these displays.

When we validate sub total value with the minimum order value, the
validation error message should not confuse the buyer. So I prefer
changing the validation error also

1. Change the value of checkout prompt *Phase : -1 ID : 2348*

*Old value*
Value of your shopping basket (%s) below your limit (%s). Please add
something to your shopping basket.
*New value*
Sub total value of your shopping basket (%s) below your limit (%s).
Please add something to your shopping basket.

and

Question:
If you
1. Select goods over the MOQ then go to checkout and select the shipping option
2. Return to basket and remove goods to make the total below the MOQ then the shipping is removed as well

Answer:
This is because the total is less than minimum order value. Shipping is
added in invoice page.

Question:
3. Add goods to make the total over the MOQ again

Answer:
When this is done, the shipping cost is displayed

Kind Regards

[mike@rfsl]

Hi Nadeem,

Thanks for your quick response.
I've applied the new changes and it all looks to be working OK, I've tested with all combinations of control flow I could think of.

I'll see if the customers manage to find any way around it now!

[00lewis]

ok i have finall sifted through about 7000 lines of perl script and located a part of it that says
}
"Please try the following:

Open ActinicOrder.pm (C:\Program Files\Actinic v7\Sites\Site1)

Quote: Search the following comment lines
#
# Get the shipping tax opaque data
#

Add the following just above the comment lines

my $nLowerBound = $$::g_pSetupBlob{'MIN_ORDER_VALUE'};
if ($nLowerBound > $nAdjustedProductSubTotal)
{
$nShipping = 0;
} "




All this does is not add the shipping cart value at akk. not unless i havr done this to the incorrect script that says get shipping tax opague data.th script tha\t i have edited is around the 4598 line down,

is this correct?

[cdicken]

No idea I'm afraid. I'm no expert in Perl, and I'm afraid we cannot support individual customisations.

If you wanted to register an email support query at http://www.actinic.co.uk/support/register.htm, there is a possibility one of the developers could carry out this customisation for you. It's worth a try.

[00lewis]

hi there i am also trying to resolve this issue. Once a user has reached tthe checkout stage the delivery charge is added, and if the user then goes back they can remove an item and the delivery charge remains, keeping the total cart value abouve the minimum order value.

I have found this feed with this patch, however i think that as this was posted a year ago the patch is no longer attached properly, I have tried to download it but cant do anything with the file, i can not open it or move it, is there a recent download anyone can point me to? also is there one that prevents the tax being included into the minimum order value?

many thanks.

[Nadeem]

Hi Steve

I have attached it again to this thread.

Kind Regards

[00lewis]

excellent will let you know if it works.

many thanks for your speedy actions.
I see a neat x-mas gift comming your way.

[oldhasbeen]

Anybody tried and tested the patch posted here by Nadeem on 5th Dec?

We're still having this same problem - and it's definitely being caused when a customer goes to the cart and removes items. At this stage, provided the order including shipping is more than the minimum, it allows the order to go through.

Have been trying to find a resolution for this for over a year now.

Thanks

[mike@rfsl]

We have been using the patch posted by Nadeem on the 26th April 2005 up until now without any problems.

[oldhasbeen]

Thanks Mike - will give it a go! Fingers crossed (everything crossed).....

[zgap111]

Does this patch work on v8 (v8.50) ?

We're having some orders received that are below the min value.

Thanks.

[Bruce]

Zgap111,

The fix mentioned will work in v8.5.0, please take a look at post #11 on the previous page and follow the instructions.

Kind regards,

[oldhasbeen]

Apologies, excuse my blushes - I've downloaded and unzipped the patch posted by Nadeem on 5th December - what do I do with it now?

I've read through the previous posts in the thread, but I can't figure out where I should be putting this amount of coding, as the previous posts only refer to changing a few lines of code.

Sorry....

[Bruce]

Hi,

The one you downloaded is a patched ActinicOrder.pm. It has a modified sub CheckBuyerLimit. Extract the file and replace your existing ActinicOrder.pm in your site folder for the one you downloaded.

Kind regards,

[oldhasbeen]

Hi Bruce

It seems that we're doomed to never get this minimum order sorted out.

I must be really dumb today - please don't laugh (oh, go on then )

The unzipped file is a .txt file - I've renamed the original ActinicOrder.pm, opened it, pasted in the new text and saved as the original ActinicOrder.pm then uploaded. I've also tried renaming the original file, then saving the .txt file as the original file.

Either way, once uploaded as soon as you try to add to basket or do anything with check out I'm getting internal server error pages. As our website has constant visitors, I can't leave this so have had to pronto go back to the original file and re-upload immediately.

One thing I have noticed - if you're a 1st time visitor (or have cleared out all your cookies etc), when you add to basket it displays in the cart summary as the correct amount and won't let you through check out until you've hit minimum product value = £10.

However, if you've ordered before and haven't cleared your cookies, when you add to cart the summary displays the amount of goods + postage (so a £1 item shows as £3.95 for a previous UK customer or £6.95 for international). As soon as this hits £10, even including postage, you can get through check out - and by the same token, you can have £40 in your basket, go to view basket, take stuff out until you hit £11 and still get through.

This might explain why getting this minimum order thing to work is so hit and miss.

Is this patch supposed to deal with this situation? If so, I'm blowed as to what I'm doing wrong. One of the reasons we upgraded was to have the enforceable minimum order and it's been a continuous headache trying to get it to work.

Can you put me on the path to enlightenment?

Thanks