Take 2...IE6 problem with some CSS

[RuralWeb]

If you understand html and css, you will never expect actinic to teach you it as you know how complex or involved it can be

Its like buying a modern car and expecting to be able to fix the engine management system yourself using the handbook when all you know about cars is that they run on petrol.

[leehack]

Good analogy Mal, only after they have learnt the management system, will they realise how silly it is to expect to have been taught that in the basic manual.

[RuralWeb]

Good analogy Mal

I only know it because its the situation Im in - ie I have a car which I keep breaking, now I could sit for hours on a forum Im sure posting silly questions and being told to RTFM.

Getting all upset that people think Im stupid when its really the car manufactures fault for not writing a better manual. Why should I have to go on a 3 year mechanics course when all I want to do is get my car working - its simple and should be clearly explained in the handbook.

The fact that I drove the car through a river should have nothing to do with it - there should be a button that you press that resets all the wet electrics.

Its a good job that there are people trained to fix my mistakes so I can carry on making them

[TraceyHand]

WTF, Mal?
Did you forget your medication this morning?

[leehack]

NO he's still reeling from driving his car into a river lol .

[RuralWeb]

still reeling

yes Im thinking of taking up fishing (dont know much about that either!)

[TraceyHand]

yes Im thinking of taking up fishing (dont know much about that either!)

well, you're supposed to sit on the bank with a line...not drive in..
or maybe that wasn't clear in the "how to fish" documentation!

[leehack]

well, you're supposed to sit on the bank with a line...not drive in..
or maybe that wasn't clear in the "how to fish" documentation!

There wasn't a sign or a manual telling him how deep or how wide, so he just drove in, crossed his fingers and clicked on upload. He got towed out by a penny farthing i think.

[RuralWeb]

He got towed out by a penny farthing i think.

1947 MG TF

[Darren B]

I love these threads

Its actually longer about everything else but the title LOL, i see the week has started well for some

D

[TraceyHand]

I love these threads

Its actually longer about everything else but the title LOL, i see the week has started well for some

D

well, it did kinda deviate off topic but hey, it's only one of my threads, what does anyone else care?
It's 'karma', right?

[Darren B]

PMSL "Karma" - I added another word to that, school boys mind

[george]

I posted the overall page width as an example as its something that generally every Actinic site owner will have to adjust (eventually), and that the available help files on the subject, even generally, could be improved, even just giving pointers as to where to look in the layouts, css or whatever.


And I stand by my comments, as its only my opinion after all.

[leehack]

This will happen George in the future no doubt, but i don't think it will be in the way you think, they will never take on the task of explaining html and css, even more so when it crosses over and sometimes is exclusive to a particular theme. What they will probably do is have a wizard, or variables where you choose widths in site options. (You can actually set this up yourself with V8 if you know how to create variables, as you can add them to replace the currently hard coded values in the stylesheet and then just adjust the widths in site options)

Once you understand how bad some of the actinic CSS is, you will be grateful you was not taught by the very people who created that monster. I think classes named like this:

.dotted_line_blue or .solid_line_light_blue

are enough to make Jonty shudder.

As the software develops and design standards dictate certain elements, i'd expect some wider or fluid themes too, which will negate much of the problems in this area.

[jont]

.dotted_line_blue or .solid_line_light_blue

*shudder*

The inner width has been set internally (as well as colours, font sizes in the CSS etc etc) so it is only a small leap to have a global variable to set the overall width and also choose the units (pixels or percentage)... probably one for the wish list.

Actinic is slowly moving away from either install and leave well alone if a newbie (versions prior to v8 with hideous nested templates) and towards making the code more accessible (v8 and a design tab) .. which is a double edged sword if you are really unsure on what you are doing or can quite easily scare newbies as it can look intimidating.