Mods are you listening?

[jont]

Give me Admin rights! I'll sort it out

Can we extend this to carrying weapons out on the street to summarily execute chavs / idiots / old pople / cars with blue lights underneath (not the police... if they are monitoring this thread) / people who drop litter in McDonalds car parks

[kev67]

This has been a bone of contention for some time with the regular posters and some posters "demanding" answers without bothering to look or think.

If you live on this forum like some of us do all the threads are read so we know where they are and see a pattern forming so it is easy to find stuff. I am all with Malcolm in empowering people to think about a solution rather than asking for help every 5 minutes or bothering to look.

Welcome to the jaded club Kev .... you will learn to ease your bitterness by not replying to certain posts

Truly honoured yet again Jont, I feel part of the forum (even if only a few months) I do view this site on a regular basis, I have been bitten too many times by Mal at the start and TBH gave a mouthful back, but loooking back is he right although not many like his replies is it the only way to learn this software, perhaps you're right, I'll select what I reply to from now on

Good advice and thanks

[Darren B]

Fun in Brum?

I wish, they think im rich because i come from south, then the wife opens her mouth and that buggers them right up

[kev67]

bloody hell guys let me catch up on this.....................lol

Tracey, you make me laugh

Darren.............yes, I'll chill and shut up just incase I blow up

thanks for the support

[kev67]

Can we extend this to carrying weapons out on the street to summarily execute chavs / idiots / old pople / cars with blue lights underneath (not the police... if they are monitoring this thread) / people who drop litter in McDonalds car parks

bloody funny this quote Jont as I have Vice City on PS2, a total wicked game that should suit this to a T

[kev67]

Lee

you have made enough posts here, perhaps you could offer to be a Mod as I doubt I'd stand much chance but BF would I clean out some cack

[george]

Add a good title, crap titles immediately deleted and you can write the whole post out again.

Thread titles are the single one thing that would help improve the search facility. Including relevant keywords is king.

Anyone saying they're a newbie or im a girlie, gets a week read-only ban.

Tracey is 110% girl. Surely thats not a punishable offence?

[kev67]

have taken advice from you all I and am now gonna cut the grass instead and have a beer!

not quite sure what is more stressing though?.....................lol

[parklifeclothes]

What I don't understand is why the people currently saying too many 'newbies' are asking stupid repeated questions bother answering, and then post about it? Surely if it hacks you off that much, don't post answers and if some so called 'do-gooder' wants to answer then so be it. I feel that the ones who post the more obnoxious answers such as 'look it up, it was answered 3 months ago' are in doing so causing the forum to feel heavy handed.
The problem lies with the software offering both professionals the chance to build some pretty impressive sites and make money at the same time as giving people with basic knowledge the chance to start a business/make some money. Because of this it is always going to cause some contention between those that know and those that don't.
Generally when I post a question I am hoping that someone kindly has the answer I was looking for but I don't expect it and in turn try and answer the more basic of question (those that I just might have the knowledge to answer).
Please, if you don't like the question being asked, don't answer, after all Actinic will post a reply on most cases where there has been little progress.

[leehack]

To many people who frequent this forum like myself, it is classed as our home, with us often visiting a good few times each day. It is a fantastic resource, most of which has been compiled by people in their own time and not employed by actinic. What your opinion fails to appreciate is that people like myself often read almost every post, we are aware of what is available in the forum and what has been answered, often in such depth, that finding the said threads will help 100 times more than one or two replies. It's not just about can't be arsed to reply to this again, it's about getting the best answer in the fastest time.

Much the same as you state "don't reply", people have the option to "not read". You should follow your own advice. Your post is moaning about the people who are moaning about the people who don't search the forum - notice a pattern?

We are all different personalities and have different ideas on how things should occur, some of us turn a blind eye and some of us comment - it's no different to real life. But one constant throughout the life of anyone on this forum is that a forum search is the very best approach to solve your problem in the quickest and most informed manner, 99% of the time.

Threads take days, sometimes weeks to form and if you honestly think that waiting for new answers is better than finding the previous threads, which are full of advice from many different people giving you the widest perspective on the problem, then you are naive.

If you are not naive and you do believe that previously formed threads are the best way to solve a problem most of the time, then how do you get this over to a new poster? You have 2 options - search the forum for them and provide the link(s) or tell them to search the forum as it has been covered previously. Maybe you think we should search the forum, find the answer and then copy paste it into the new thread?

What are your ideas for the way forward? Im genuinely interested, you don't like people who tell people to use the search, yet you choose to moan about these people(not heeding your own advice). Enlighten us with what is the best way forward, i'm always happy to listen to new ideas, maybe collectively we can make it better.

The fact remains that if i see someone who has genuinely tried to solve a problem and is just plain stuck, i will help and spend hours of my time if needed. If somebody cannot be arsed to read a thread directly providing them with info on how they should use the forum, i will gladly tell them to go find their answer via the search facility.

If you cannot grasp that an old thread formed over days and hours will yield a much better result than a new one, you will never understand this point of view. People obviously overlook the fact that the question may have already been answered, otherwise they would have searched, so somehow you need to get these people to those threads - how do you do that?

[kev67]

well what the hell do you do to answer that one!..........LEE!.................lol

stop moaning about someone moaning who is ME moaning from the off - oh dear, I'm sorry to have started this thread but it appears to have started a good bit of feed back so I will continue to moan/help/and winge and until someone tells me to FO then I will do that

I am simply trying to make a point of wishing that people would READ/LEARN first, like I did that's all

and YES, I too answer and view posts when I can but it gets me down big time as a novice trying to help when I know that a few simple clicks will in most cases give an answer or at least point someone in the right direction without the need to just make a post that could be searched so easily - that is all I wanted to make clear and if I have upset anyone in my thread on this then that is simply tough shit!

Ban me, slate me, but what I say above I reckon is felt by many...............................

[parklifeclothes]

[QUOTE=leehack]
What are your ideas for the way forward? Im genuinely interested, you don't like people who tell people to use the search, yet you choose to moan about these people(not heeding your own advice). Enlighten us with what is the best way forward, i'm always happy to listen to new ideas, maybe collectively we can make it better.
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I just feel that at times the answers come across heavy handed and as said in my last post if you don't like the laziness shown in some of the threads let them go unanswered. I was hoping not to come across moaning as that was not my intention, it was just another way of tackling a problem that will always be present on any forum you might visit regulary.

[leehack]

If a member searches the forum at the moment, although the search facility is not brill, it does work. The more and more duplicate threads on the same subject, the less efficient the search becomes. New members ideally do not want to be greeted with 40 results - that's a ballache. Ideally they would find 3 or 4 threads of which one would give them the answers they need. Therefore currently, new members actually contribute greatly to the inefficiency of the search facility, yet the search facility is the key to most of their problems. That is a viscious circle that must be stopped somehow?

This is why (although i know it's not great), threads on the same subject should be deleted IMO, this provides you with a streamlined search then, far better focused on getting your problem solved.

If you ask me a question and i write the answer on a piece of paper and then mingle that in with 39 other pieces of paper and throw them randomly at you, you have to sift through to find it - that in essence is how the search fails on a forum IF persistent duplication of content is allowed to continue.

[kev67]

answer is simple

give me MOD rights!

ha haaaaaaaa, I'll sort out the crap and thats the end of the story

simple, if you teach a child to stop pissing in his nappy, he'll soon learn to use the potty!

easy................

[Cheapprices4u]

answer is simple

give me MOD rights!

ha haaaaaaaa, I'll sort out the crap and thats the end of the story

simple, if you teach a child to stop pissing in his nappy, he'll soon learn to use the potty!

easy................

This is THE post of the week i reckon ( currently doing potty training with 2nd daughter.............boy i forgot how tough it could be)


having been and currently mod on other forums i see the point from all angles
and the original post is correct in saying/asking we need some mods

the mods would indeed as lee says control duplicate and unecessary posts
they can tidy the place up so to speak

just my 2pc worth ill crawl back to my problems i know are simple and its NOT actinics fault